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用户 sweis 在 Hacker News 上针对 Claude 揭示 ECDSA 曲线来源一事发帖讨论,指出此前关于密码短语哈希的说法得到了多方印证但最终被证实错误。评论区随后围绕代码丢失、种子生成方式及相关传闻展开了进一步讨论。

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sweis1 day ago | parent | context | favorite | on: Claude reveals ECDSA curve origins The two people were Bob Reiter and Jerry Solinas. Jerry wrote in a 2015 email to Daniel Bernstein that he thought it was a hash of the passphrase. I corroborated that story with 4 people, including two ex-NSA folks off the record. Everyone was wrong! I wasn't able to reach Bob. He was working in private industry as of 2018, but never responded. help Image 2lifeisloving1 day ago | next[–] Kind of sus that they would spread a rumor that its a phrase. This isnt something I would forget, or confuse with a timestamp.. reply Image 3ACCount391 day ago | parent | next[–] It's possible that this "phrase hash" method was used for a different case - like another, unrelated and possibly unreleased algorithm. And then it was confused for the one used for those curves. reply Image 4rustyhancock20 hours ago | parent | prev | next[–] There is one that Claude couldn't find perhaps that is from the phrase. But I do agree, it is unusual actually that the code was lost. It is also unusual that they didn't include how they derived the seed, and weren't forced to pick a randomly generated one. I guess these are all things that would happen today but this was not so long ago to my mind so it is a surprise it didn't happen! reply Image 5thayne23 hours ago | parent | prev | next[–] One possibility is that they created multiple seeds, and misremembered which one they eventually went with. Although, it's weird no one ever said "or it might have been a timestamp". reply Image 6aizk22 hours ago | prev | next[–] Exactly what the NSA would say. reply Image 7perching_aix1 day ago | prev | next[–] Maybe that explanation covers the rest that wasn’t identified? reply Image 8Pannoniae1 day ago | prev[–] or they were lying... reply Image 9 Consider applying for YC's Winter 2027 batch! Applications are open till November 2. Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact Search:

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