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New comment by jacquesm in "Zuckerberg's Meta Takes Down No Kings Instagram During Protest Day"
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jacquesm1 hour ago | parent | context | favorite | on: Zuckerberg's Meta Takes Down No Kings Instagram Du... I don't know if you remember the inauguration photograph but it is pretty clear that this is one big family now. To save you some searching: https://www.gettyimages.nl/detail/nieuwsfoto's/guests-includ... help zeven750 minutes ago | next[–] How weird still that that is the world we live in now. I would have never predict that photograph 1 year before it was taken. reply
derektank38 minutes ago | parent | next[–] Well yeah, Donald Trump was threatening to imprison Zuck a year before it was taken reply
zeven717 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] He also threatened to imprison Hillary Clinton.
She wasn't at the inauguration. reply legrangramgroum8 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] No she was there with her husband. reply
zeven73 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] I stand corrected. Still, Trump threatened to imprison other people who didn’t start dressing like a bro and talking differently after the election - and who still aren’t imprisoned. reply
andsoitis8 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] They are there as representatives of their companies. They have a fiduciary duty to do what they think is best for the company and its shareholders. Hillary doesn't need to do anything like that. But even she was there. We each have a lens on reality, your lens' aperture is skewed on this specific aspect. reply
kevmo39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next[–] You should read A People's History of the United States! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_History_of_the_Un... reply
calvinmorrison36 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] more fun, 'A Renegade History of the United States' reply
tfrancisl24 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] Down voted for suggesting the most salient analysis of US history. Sad! reply
jamienk21 minutes ago | prev | next[–] They looks like degenerates - in the photo they really are sickeningly grotesque! It's not Felliniesque because they have their own, new style of hideousness: putrid, plastic, shiny, smug, weak, and radically vulgar! reply
kevmo59 minutes ago | prev | next[–] All of those people belong in prison. reply
jacquesm57 minutes ago | parent | next[–] They do, but I stopped subscribing to the just world hypothesis a couple of decades ago. There is just too much broken and money has too much power to be reined in by justice. reply
ambione45 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] nah respectfully, to hell with this doomerism. these people and groups have names. their deeds have paper trails. For every single one of them, there's millions of us. It's a matter of sorting out the polluted discourse, remembering we have 99% more in common than otherwise, organizing, electing grassroots politicians who truly represent the people and our interests, and then finally holding them accountable through prosecution. reply
jacquesm42 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] I'll take that bet. $1000 that five years from now none of these fat cats are behind bars. I'm good for the money. reply
BorisMelnik19 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] I would also take that bet, but when the pain gets great enough people do come out and vote historically anyway reply
lostlogin0 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] That’s the tidy way. Going full Luigi is a darker path.
Loughla10 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] People coming out when they felt great pain is what got us Donald Trump. I don't know if you remember the 2016 election, but I do. People were RABID for Trump. Something something be careful what you wish for. reply
lostlogin0 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] > People were RABID for Trump. ‘Were’? Has that changed? They got exactly what they voted for.
tokioyoyo24 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] I’ll add another $1000 in support. It’s funny/sad how fast things change, especially one’s values given the circumstances. reply
ambione23 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] you'd likely be right. I'm not contesting that. The world and its people have been utterly raped to ashes, yet the apocalyptic rapture the parties responsible have been building their doomsday shelters for has never and will never arrive. Instead from these ashes we are seeing change emerging. It's slow sure, and hell maybe it won't be enough, but the grassroots ARE giving the old corrupt institutions something to sweat about (on 'both sides' if you'd like to see it that way). People are increasingly having less and less to lose. Get informed. inform others. organize with them. build community with them. The weight we hold together outweighs the solipsistic vampires. Have hope even if it's irrational, that's when we need it most. materialize it. DO something with it - even if we don't get to enjoy the fruits that may come of it; at least those who come after us will, and that's worth something. reply
hackyhacky39 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] > For every single one of them, there's millions of us. Yes, the ruling elite are typically outnumbered by the masses. It matters little: by historical standards, the ruling powers have virtually always leveraged their power to exploit those who don't have power. No reason to assume that streak will end. reply
apsurd15 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] it’s sinister because I believe most of us (by definition) think of ourselves as part of the people but as one has ambitions and becomes capable, the pull of “success” spares nobody. Flock is dystopian. It’s also non ironically pitched as solving crime. it’s also our friendly neighborhood YC company. reply
stackghost20 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] Fascism has never been defeated without violence, but Americans are too complacent to rise up in arms, despite the societal gun fetish. It’s over. reply
shawn_w8 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] The people with the gun fetish are largely on the side of the fascists. reply
kcplate35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next[–] What law do you believe that they have broken? reply
Jcampuzano223 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] Combined, their companies have broken basically every law in the book that you could when it comes to privacy and copyright. reply
senordevnyc3 minutes ago | root | parent | next[–] Gasp, not copyright! Quick, get the pitchforks!! reply
gilrain19 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] What sort of lion lives in the sea? reply
kevmo23 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] RICO, sexual assault of minors, treason, labor laws, drug laws, and probably a million other things. reply
jiggawatts24 minutes ago | root | parent | prev | next[–] Every AI company has flagrantly violated copyright, to begin with. But that's not the point! The point is that the laws are written by the oligarchs, for the oligarchs. Laws are made to protect wealth and power, so of course the wealthy and powerful haven't "broken" them. reply
senordevnyc1 minute ago | root | parent | next[–] This is genuinely so funny to me. Five years ago this site was ready to burn you at the stake if you defended copyright laws, which clearly were only written to protect the rich and powerful, like Disney! Now those laws are obviously there to defend the little guy against the oligarchs, and we should ready our pitchforks to march on Silicon Valley for daring to violate our precious copyright laws!! reply
thatsabadlook50 minutes ago | prev[–] Loss of accountability and deregulation leads to oligarchy. If we are lucky, this will take decades to clean up. reply
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